Conspiracy category?[]
It wasn't a real coup. Don't know if that matters. TR 22:51, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I see that now. Should we make an article on political resistance? On conspiracies? Turtle Fan 22:54, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- Not sure. I think its more akin to a hoax more than anything. Conspiracies seems like it would work. TR 22:56, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- A Conspiracy category could be interesting. We'd put Coups and Uprisings in there. Turtle Fan 23:00, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
Bumping up the idea of a "Conspiracies" category. ML4E (talk) 18:27, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
"Anti-Semite"? Paranoid is more likely. Zhukov15 (talk) 23:20, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
After the novel[]
The phrase "professor's plot" doesn't appear at all in the novel. In the story, HT essentially chalks it up to Steele's anti-Semitism, paralleling the OTL Doctor's Plot. In the novel, the one conversation about the round-up between Charlie Sullivan and Esther Sullivan leaves things on a slightly more ambiguous note. Esther worries about the long list of Jewish scientists executed in the wake of Einstein's bombshell. Charlie points out that Rickover, Teller, Feynman, et al were Jews, too. Obviously, Charlie'd gotten used to looking at the bright side of Steele's regime at that point, but I suspect Turtledove may have realized that
Anyway, I think we should leave the article, but it should be rewritten as an out-of-universe literary comment, explaining the name was only used in the story, but that there was a similar incident in the novel, etc. TR (talk) 21:08, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
- I agree. Sorry about the delay responding. On rereading the scene that you referenced between Charlie and Esther, it does seem to indicate that the executions occurred after Einstein's death implying it more closely parallels the short story than what I stated in some of the Literary Comments. It might be similar to what happened to the various state department officials and academics in the novel after Mao took control of China. ML4E (talk) 17:53, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
Criminal Organization[]
It wasn't an organization, criminal or otherwise. It was a fictional pre-text for persecution. TR (talk) 06:05, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Gone without reading this. My contempt for this fitting the category may be showing. ML4E (talk) 19:14, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- No objections here. In addition to my general disdain for trying to bend content on this Wiki to categories, there's my growing real-world disgust and alarm at convincing the populace of phantom organized plots in order to whip up a moral panic. Turtle Fan (talk) 17:49, 28 November 2022 (UTC)