I'm concerned we may be defining this a bit too widely. As for the list of independents in HT's work, I'm not sure that it's all that useful or important to have that in one place. The tidbits of info there are not all that closely related. Turtle Fan (talk) 04:48, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Well, you created the article. I'd forgotten we even had it. If you want to alter/scrub it, I have no objection. TR (talk) 06:48, September 10, 2012 (UTC)
All right. I do like to check with everyone before removing an article that's been around a while, even one I created. Someone could always feel it's still relevant. Turtle Fan (talk) 14:13, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

I restored this so we could have a viable Indepenent color for the election template.  FYI.  TR (talk) 01:29, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

See, there you go. Turtle Fan (talk) 04:05, April 1, 2013 (UTC)


Is this article needed?JonathanMarkoff (talk) 22:19, October 26, 2017 (UTC)

"The purpose of this page is to allow Independent to be used in the election template. It should not be treated as a regular article." Given this explanation at the beginning of the article, I would say the answer to your question is "Yes". ML4E (talk) 18:14, October 27, 2017 (UTC)

McClellan/Everett '64 in The Guns of the South[]

Would it be worth mentioning on the article about the Independent run that happened in the 1864 US Presidential Election in The Guns of the South? After George McClellan (The OTL 1864 Democratic Presidential Candidate) failed to gain the Democratic nomination, he ran as an Independent candidate with former 1860 Constitutional Union Party Vice Presidential nominee Edward Everett, as his running mate. The ticket carried third place in the electoral college but last in the popular vote. The McClellan/Everett ticket carried 10 electoral votes from the states of Delaware and New Jersey and 287,749 popular votes.

I would edit the article myself to mention this, but the article is protected and I can't edit it despite me having an account. I'll see what you guys think. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 12:50, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

As discussed above, the purpose of the article is purely to allow templates to work. We're not terribly worried treating this as an actual article. Hence its protected status. TR (talk) 14:55, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

Meh, alright. Even though the McClellan/Everett run in The Guns of the South was the only known independent for the US Presidency and would be worth a mention on the article, I guess this is fine. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 12:55, April 12, 2018 (UTC)