His edit on Talk: Baha/Golden Province does look like Jonathan defending his edit but I think we let it go. While the formatting of the articles created by the two are very similar, it does seem to be a lot of work to be logged on under two user names to edit simultaneously. ML4E (talk) 23:15, April 30, 2019 (UTC)
As long as Matthew doesn't do anything stupid like Jonathan did, I'm perfectly fine of him being here. At least he isn't screwing up constantly like Jonathan used to do, is he? JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 15:00, May 1, 2019 (UTC)
So he's making a lot of useless lit comms and such, and worse, he admits to being in contact with Jonathan for purposes of continuing his work here. Maybe he's not Jonathan as a sock puppet, but do we really have to put up with him? Would it be such a bad thing to have peace and quiet, and not be completely inundated by unimportant nonsense every time we open recent changes? All of which must be checked because the person who wrote it has a proven record of substandard edits?
Works for me TR! Oh, by the way Turtle Fan, even if you get rid of the problem, another problem usually takes its place. If a vandal or annoying nuisance (such as Jonathon) gets banned or at the very least just leaves the wiki, another one usually take his or her place, so just be careful. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 18:45, May 3, 2019 (UTC)
Yes, clearly. That's the problem with Matthew. He first showed up during one of Jonathan's temp bans. He behaves much like Jonathan. Now two days after we were finally rid of that pest for good, Matthew shows up once again and start editing in Jonathanesque quantities. And openly admits to being in contact with Jonathan and interested in continuing his work. As you say, one nuisance leaves and we get another in his place.
The only thing that stays my hand is the fact that they did "interact" at least once. It is possible that Jonathan created the alter-ego, and then, seeing the writing on the wall, started playing in multiple accounts.
While Jonathan seemed more than capable of doing this rather than simply correcing his behavior, I am willing to favor the simpler explanation--it's two different users.
I hope you're right TR. Let's just hope Matthew and Jonathan are two different people who just know each other and are friends and are not the same person. Let us just keep our eyes out just to be on the safe side. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 15:00, May 4, 2019 (UTC)
Just F.Y.I., I have found that using the "revert" command seems to rollback all changes for the particular editor until it reaches someone else's edits. For instance Ariovistus was reverted back to TR's edits in July 2016 eliminating categories added in the interim by Johnathan that were appropriate. I find I get better control if I use the history comparisons and then press the "Undo" button when I find the changes that I want to eliminate. ML4E (talk) 20:14, November 13, 2018 (UTC)
I don't know why but I was expecting categories to be bracketed at the bottom like they used to be. And Jonathan had fucked with the templates, so it took me a bit of trial and error to figure out how to clean up after him.
And I really was in a hurry to hit him with the banstick. Sure is peaceful without him, isn't it?
Lord Goliath is a redirect to the "Occupation Duty" sub-section of the Goliath article. I think the half dozen redirects for Philistines is idiotic but the "Lord Goliath" is clever.ML4E (talk) 21:16, February 21, 2016 (UTC)
As far as I can see, its so he doesn't have to cover it with a "|" the way he would with your example. The characters in the story refer to him as Lord Goliath and only in that story which will make it a unique redirect. I've done that a few times myself and that's why I think use of the non-standard form is clever here. It has an intuitive use so I don't mind it. Now the Philistines stuff is another matter. ML4E (talk) 21:28, February 21, 2016 (UTC)
ML4E: Well if you don't mind. I guess I was hasty. Every time Jonathan learns a new trick (adding categories, uploading images, now making redirects) he completely overdoes it. So when I saw this, I figured we should try to nip it in the bud.
nice to see the wiki still going strong. I used to edit here back in 2007-2008 but then left for grad school (and weirdly enough now am a professor at a university mentioned in Southern Victory). Hope all's going well!
Hey Elefuntboy, I remember you! I'm very pleased to hear that you've made good for yourself. I'm not sure whether you're looking to get back into editing for us full time (we could not be happier to have you if that's the case) so either welcome back or thanks for dropping by, whichever is appropriate. :)
SJ it's the Donut, I was just looking back through the Better Board Wiki and laughing out loud at the article that you posted on Abraham Beame years ago. The link's broken so i'll post the text here.
Abraham Beame (1906-2001) is the worst mayor in the history of New York. Under his mayorship the city's standard of living was badly denigrated by Beame's myopic obsession with culture, which led him to abandon his duties as executive of the city government, head of law enforcement, budget planner et cetera to work full-time as the booking agent at the club CBGB, or, according to The Simpsons, Comic Book Guy's Bar. The disastrous cultural renaissance to which Beame subjected New York continued to cause bankruptcy, crime, and urban blight until Rudy Giulianni boldly shut down every museum, gallery, auction house, theater, concert hall, library, and bookstore in New York City.
Ah yes, I remember that. You called Giulianni a destroyer of culture or something like that and contrasted him with Beame--who really was a corrupt creep, by the way. I was sure you were wrong and looked for data to prove it, such as comparative numbers of art exhibits and theater productions to open and close in NYC during their respective administrations. No source to which I had easy access kept such information, so I wrote the above instead. That really was a useful Wiki. Turtle Fan (talk) 22:04, December 3, 2012 (UTC)
It was, all the inside jokes still give me a good laugh. Since I like to laugh at myself the Anti-Donut Bias still tickles me. I think I called Beame "the greatest mayor of New York" but was never really serious about it. Was just my affinity for the punk rock scene in New York at the time, not that there's any connection between the two. That would admittedly be like praising LBJ or Nixon because a lot of great rock came out when they were in charge.