Turtledove

Only two ATL cardinals, Parsons and Gioisio. One assumes that Pope Pius XIV was once a cardinal, but that's a bit too inferential for me. Turtle Fan 04:50, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Eight of our thirteen Cardinals are Popes. This makes me wonder if Popes should become a subcat. The problem is, I can think offhand of at least two Popes in that category who were not cardinals prior to their election. Those Popes reigned at a time before the title had been created. Turtle Fan 20:17, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

It's probably easier to leave well enough alone, then. TR 21:49, July 20, 2011 (UTC)