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So in class this week I'm talking about the 1990s and the attempt to set up a post-Cold War foreign policy. In an effort to hammer home just how radically different the world had become in such a short time I invoked the utter absurdity of the leader of the Soviet Communist Party making a commercial for an American fast food chain. Not sure that fully sank in for kids who didn't live through that time, but one of them pulled it up on YouTube and hung around after class a bit to talk about it. He was amused to read comments, one of which was something to the effect of "Imagine if Reagan had wound up making commercials for Stolichnaya."
Of course whoever made that post missed the point completely: If we were living in a world where the USSR was the only global superpower, no one would be making commercials for anything. For a couple of days the prospect of how to get there has marinated in my mind, and for the first time in ages I find myself coming up with an original AH idea. I figured I might as well sketch it out here in case anyone finds it interesting.
So HT of course gave us something like this in ''[[The Gladiator]]'' and kept the POD kind of vague, but it does somewhat seem like the USSR was able to score a decisive military victory without American second strike capability turning that victory to ashes. But I was thinking a peaceful end to the Cold War, something that closely parallels what really happened, would be more in order. I came up with the following, which I want to emphasize is not something I actually think could have happened. In fact I think the probability approaches zero. But as a thought experiment, it was the most grounded scenario I could come up with.
So my first thought was, Reagan was way too hard line to be a Gorbachev like figure. He's not going to end up making the equivalent of a Pizza Hut commercial; his contribution to this timeline will be losing power, or maybe never attaining it to begin with. The latter option struck me as the more promising of the two; if he was in power military buildups would make a peaceful fall nearly impossible. This starting point may be too strongly influenced by depressing current events, but let's say that Nixon is sulking about how badly he was treated at the end of his administration, and despite the fact that he'd been caught red-handed breaking the law, too many Republicans are fighting his corner even though the country desperately wants to move on. This makes the GOP unelectable--I mean, it would have to, wouldn't it? Wouldn't it?--and Carter is reelected in 1980.
Despite getting a second term, he's faced with one worst-case scenario after another. At home, inflation and unemployment both remain painfully high thanks to OPEC continuing to choke oil imports down to a trickle, and the generalized malaise of the 1970s, with its loss of faith in public institutions, continues to hang around like the smoke and haze of a faraway wildfire. Abroad, the US is on the back foot everywhere we turn. The diplomats who'd been abducted in Tehran never do make it home, and are ultimately executed on Khomeini's orders when the CIA opens a back channel to Baghdad during the Iraq-Iran War. The Camp David Accords are quickly forced aground by hard-liners in both Tel Aviv and Cairo. Vietnam forces Pol Pot out of power, reveals to the world the full extent of his crimes, and publicizes that, for all its talk of human rights regimes, America had backed the people responsible for these horrors. Pro-US regimes in Latin America fall to Marxist insurgencies, and it seems every year we're in danger of another Cuba. The situation there really deteriorates when Argentina repels the British force sent to retake the Falklands, and American support for the UK badly backfires with regional leaders.
Moscow on the other hand is doing great. Swift military action in Poland cuts the Solidarity strikers down to size, and the USSR welcomes the newly annexed Afghan Soviet Socialist Republic.
The British defeat in the South Atlantic leads to the fall of the Tory government, and late in 1982 Michael Foot forms a government, with Tony Benn as chancellor. Left-wingers like Eric Heffer and Dennis Skinner take Cabinet posts, new MPs like Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell are fast-tracked, and Militant ensures that the Tony Blairs of the world never gain traction. Before too long we see Britain withdraw from NATO, and other Western European nations follow. Spain and Portugal drift in a Marxist direction following the deaths of their ancient fascist rulers. For good measure we'll say Canada somehow gets taken over by an anti-NATO faction of New Democrats and possibly sees Quebecois secession as well. (What good AH scenario doesn't include Quebecois secession?)
The 1984 election is a shitshow. Carter is term limited but steers the Democratic nomination to a centrist establishmentarian--for simplicity's sake, say Mondale. This infuriates hard left factions that had arisen out of nowhere in response to the successes of their comrades in other (former) NATO countries. They'd hoped to reverse the ultimate failure of the left wing to seize the Democratic Party from the establishment in 1968, and having failed again they run a ticket of their own. (No one really comes to mind off the top of my head--Abbie Hoffman, maybe?) The Republicans run someone repugnant like David Duke, and favorite sons crop up here and there as well. No one gets a majority in the EC and Congress is unable to break the deadlock. The lame duck Carter seems paralyzed and a coup is attempted by Oliver North or someone like that. It fails when the radical left's candidate stares them down, Yeltsin style. His popularity soars and demand for a new constitutional convention becomes irresistible.
At the convention, Hoffman or whoever makes a compelling case that both politics and economics have been hopelessly corrupted by private enterprise, and a new constitution that enshrines nationalization and a planned economy is approved by the delegates. Of course not everyone's on board with it, and significant civil unrest will drag on. But a new, radical government is able to seize enough control to obtain widespread international recognition. This is greatly helped by the fact that Moscow welcomes these developments and pushes the other nations of its now vastly expanded sphere of influence to do the same. That government has to request aid from the booming USSR to jump start its by now tattered economy, and that aid comes with strings attached, including large scale unilateral disarmament. Game, set, match.
Some time in the late 90s, Soviet state TV sends a crew to do a documentary on the progress of communism in the United States. For one segment they travel to Plains, GA, where Comrade Former President does a propaganda piece on how much more productive agriculture has become since corporations like Carter Farms were nationalized.
It's a long walk to a small payoff, I'll admit, but I hope anyone reading it may have found it mildly interesting. If nothing else, thinking just how unlikely it is might drive home how similarly hard it would have been to imagine Gorbachev wound one day wind up selling Pizza Hut.
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Our founder and former leader Steven H. Silver has published an AH on Harold winning at Hastings. https://www.amazon.com/After-Hastings-Steven-H-Silver-ebook/dp/B08C248K89/ref=pd_sim_351_5/140-3537840-0262310?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B08C248K89&pd_rd_r=8e3edd84-abec-4195-abc9-ba4808182baf&pd_rd_w=Xfo95&pd_rd_wg=G2DTR&pf_rd_p=6576898e-c9e2-4898-9fb0-04decc8e98ea&pf_rd_r=JG2WGKHZ1RFY632YHTK3&psc=1&refRID=JG2WGKHZ1RFY632YHTK3
In case anyone is curious. I read his earlier short work "Les Lettres de Pastron" http://uchronia.net/label/silvlettre.html when it was released. It was well written, but the POD was from a time in which I have little interest.
Just a pair of curiosities.
As Sam said to Rose: "Well, I'm back".
Miss me? Covid-19 led to job loss and library lock down. I haven't had any home internet for various reasons so I have been lock-out of this and elsewhere since March 13.
The TPL has opened up for some in person use so I now have limited access. I think I will have to reseach and get home access soon. Meantime I'm back. ~~~~
I don't see why you had to close the previous discussion on this page. If anything it just proves you are in the wrong. Any rational person can see that AppleMonkey was being civil and was not trolling. Just how they can see that this page is full of Bias. I showed it to people I know who hate Trump and even they agreed. I have no doubt that you will close this discussion as well because thats just who you are. I also have no doubt that if someone did this about say Hillary or Obama you would be the first one to tell them what a sexist/rascist bigot they are. You don't win the agruement by plugging your fingers in your ears going "nah nah nah nah nah". You win by ingaging in a civil discussion.
I come onto the site after a weekend of being too busy to do so and find dozens of rogue edits which TR and ML4E have had to undo, new categories which should not exist, all with him glibly explaining his reasons after he's done his deeds. Reasons that don't hold water, as he well knows, or should have known. All because he got his hands on some anthology that's been out of print for nearly fifteen years, and is just a reprint of obscure-ass stories that had been out of print for even longer than that before 3xT had its moment in the sun. It's not like he's making contributions which are urgently needed, which would make dealing with his bad behavior worth it.
I'm just really fed up with him. We tolerated similar behavior from Jonathan for years, finally rid ourselves of that pest six months ago, but it feels like he never left. I don't think MBS is a Jonathan alter ego, but I really don't care. He adds almost nothing of value to the project, shows contempt for the way we do things, and is just exhausting to have around.
I think it's time to discuss whether he's still welcome here.
Don't get me wrong, I hate Trump as much as the next guy but it really should just stick to facts and not political opinions.
Further to Talk: Ford's Theatre#Assassination of Abraham Lincoln Article, in addition to the elimination of the Lincoln and Booth sub-sections, I think the following should also be done:
For the record: Talk: Charles Lindbergh#Lindbergh Jr. on why I think both should be kept rather than deleting the father.
For the record, this Talk: Time-viewer#Delete or Not For Real is where we decided to keep all articles / sub-sections with time-viewer records rather than remove them to "Hist. Refs."
Why is this message popping every time I click on a link? It used to do this only if I tried to leave a page I had edited and not saved. I'm finding this irritating and am wondering if there is a way to turn this off. I didn't see anything in "Preferences". Suggestions? ML4E (talk) 18:27, May 9, 2019 (UTC)
I have been looking through the Southern Victory series and was unable to find any evidence that the Empire of Japan ever annexed Indochina from the French. Still, people throughout the wiki and the internet in general talk about Indochina being annexed. Does anyone know where in the books, if at all, it mentions Indochina’s annexation? Thanks.
Matthew has proposed we create a category (and attendant templating) for the AMND characters appearing the Laura Frankos story "A Late Symmer Night's Battle"
On the one hand we do have a number of those characters, and we do have the Hamlet category. On the other hand, several of them originated in legend long before Shakespeare's time, and the Hamlet category is made up of redirects.
A third way may be to do away with "Hamlet Characters" and "AMND Characters" and simply create a catch-all "Characters from William Shakespeare" or something like that.
If you don't like the new category format, go to "My Preferences" in your profile, and select "Classic Format" on the categories option.
I finished up On the Train a week ago, but in recent days, work was hell, nor was I out of it.
Both stories are charming little fantasy pieces about living on a giant train that crosses some fictional world where all manner of fantasy and science fiction tropes exist. As Rachel's story did about as much world building as her father did, articles will incorporate references form both halves. They aren't directly related, though--they are two discrete tales set in the same world involving unrelated characters who never interact.
Years ago, I proposed incorporating articles from Laura Frankos' works. We skipped it at the time, because we hadn't grown that much. Years later, we have a substantial number of articles, and we have Rachel's sole published work that intertwines with her father's, AND we have access to some of the works Laura published in the "Chicks" books.
So I'd like to again propose that we create a portal to include Laura and Rachel's respective works (and any other Turtledoves who publish). I've had a chance to read a few of Laura's stories. She's primarily a fantasy writer, but she has done a few historical pieces. (Obviously, we don't have to delve too deeply into her various books on Broadway musicals.)
After chastising Johnathan numerous times for creating categories without first discussing the need, he seems to have learned the wrong lesson. I just noticed he has added an "Aquinists" cat to four character redirects for MFCiTDE that are members of the organization but did not create the category. See here. This means the creation of the cat doesn't show up on the edit log but the cat exists anyway.
What he should have done was start a Forum discussion on this or perhaps used the Character Cat Talk Page. Instead he used this stealth approach. I am tempted to remove the cats from the character redirects except I support the creation of such a category. This would be analogous to the Sons of Liberty cat in T2G. Thoughts? ML4E (talk) 18:24, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
I've completed all of the substantive articles possible for Powerless, save for the countries. We know that the WCPDR is CA, OR and WA, and we can say a few things about it overall, but it won't be much. We also have the NESSR, which would mostly be a copy-paste of the Unnamed General Secretary of the Communist Party of the NESSR, and then the Southern Confederate People's Republic, which we know has VA, but anything else is a guess. So it would be three really tiny articles with no growth possible.
We also have various fictional countries in TDE in the Sunset Lands and parts of Asia.
I'm of the opinion that now is as good a time as any to begin a "Minor Fictional Countries" page. (Not necessarily that title.) Ideally, it would be for both fictional countries on Earth AND the minor little fantasy and sci-fi places.
I have started receiving the following message at the top of any article with a banner:
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I'm going through the stubs category and marking all the one-sentence wonders for deletion. I just don't see any value in keeping all these stubs on, e.g. the Opening of the World, when many of them haven't had any movement in years. Since restoring them is easy, deleting them will cause no harm.
In the interests of fairness, I won't delete anything if we start seeing forward momentum. So if anyone is going to go great guns on any of the marked pages, I'll give it until the end of the month.