Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25626-20160713190836/@comment-25626-20160715011828

JonathanMarkoff wrote: I think it's fun to have articles about Andrew Jackson (for example) where there is a concrete justification (GGNAU) for an anchor which can be supported by the SV and JS trivia. If we take the new proposal to the extreme, we'd lose Brezhnev and a few POTUS and VPOTUS, for example. Also English kings Henry II, James II, William III, and Mary II. And Tsar Alexander I.

So be it.

I think the Schulenberg article is relevant, because it involves a personal experience of the POV character Molotov that is important because he's feeling deja vu about it when Schmidt tries to pull the same crap on him.

That's actually the sort of article that can stand a clear-out--it took place before the POD, and while it might give us some insight into Molotov, it does nothing for the overall timeline.

The new proposal does have some merit. My interpretation is this: historical figures that are referenced by enough sentences in a work or are significantly relevant to an AH merit their own articles.

Quality not quantity. The mere number of sentences shouldn't be the deciding factor. It shouldn't be enough to say "historical figure X was mentioned ten times in Fallout, so let's create an article." We have articles for Thomas Reed and Alfred Thayer Mahan even though neither appeared in a single volume of Southern Victory because the fact that the were each POTUS reveals a great deal about that timeline, to say nothing of the fact that neither served in OTL.

Historical characters that are referenced fleetingly, just falling short of that criteria, could go into the new list. Duke of Wellington is an example. It would be so nice to have a Wellington article, but the fleeting reference in Liberating Atlantis, plus the name Wellesley on T2G map, don't really justify an article. John Paul Jones, Lewis & Clark, and Konstantin Tsiolkovsky are figures we'd like to have articles for, but HT hasn't used them except as ship names.

We have different definitions of fleetingly, but that's what I am proposing.

If figures have their own articles, such as Andrew Jackson, they don't need to be on the new list.

Aside from T2G, the rest of Andrew Jackson's article is akin to a lit comment--as stated above, Joe Steele and Jake Featherston paraphrase him, nothing more. So, the article would survive on T2G.

And they'll get taken off if they get articles. For example, if Wellington is on the list for LA+T2G, but then he gets a significant reference in The Hot War for a character finding a half-melted statue of him in a nuked-out English city, then he'd get his own article and be removed from the other list.

Wellington would need much more than his statue melting to justify the article under my proposal.

This is just my view of the whole thing, and it's a haphazard work in progress.